Hi Andy
I did a quick test on a QL1 tonight and I’ve attached a quick page config export (just remove the .txt from the file name)
I don’t seem to be able to get the feedback to work as I’d have thought.
I’ve also recorded a quick video demonstrating the issue, which I can send you - although it’s too big to put up here. 250mb.
I was also wondering if there was a way to ‘release’ an already pressed ‘cue’ button when pressing another - i.e the same way it actually works on the desk itself. At the moment, I have to press the current cue button to turn it off then press the next to turn that one on.
The monitor independent TTS works great - about time macros were available on a Yamaha as they have been for ever on a Digico!
Let me know how I can send this short vid to you.
Changing the Cue mode on the console (from single to add) makes no difference to resetting the cues?
You can send a dropbox link, or upload to a private youtube channel if that works for you.
Not sure what “independent TTS” is?
I wrote a macro program for the Yamaha consoles about 10 years ago - YammieQ. I’ll be seeing what I can pull from there to work with StreamDeck as we go along.
You’ll want separate feedbacks for on and off state for the cues. I added them here. Repeat for the mutes if you like.
Changing Cue mode isn’t the issue - I’m in sends on fader mode. I’m trying to setup a SDeck layout which is useful to MONs worlds.
So one other thing, is there a command to make the desk go into SOF mode when cueing a particular mix?
Independent TTS - That’s basically a Talk To Stage for individual mixes - i.e. I can talk to just the Drummer or just the Vocalist etc etc… By pushing just the one SDeck button to set the TTS Mic Channel, level and mix output.
Can’t workout how I’d set a separate feedback for on and off states of the cues, unless I had separate On/Off buttons, as there’s only one feedback for each button.
Changing Cue mode isn’t the issue - I’m in sends on fader mode. I’m trying to setup a SDeck layout which is useful to MONs worlds.
Understood. Just checking.
So one other thing, is there a command to make the desk go into SOF mode when cueing a particular mix?
Not within SCP.
Independent TTS - That’s basically a Talk To Stage for individual mixes - i.e. I can talk to just the Drummer or just the Vocalist etc etc… By pushing just the one SDeck button to set the TTS Mic Channel, level and mix output.
Very handy!
Can’t workout how I’d set a separate feedback for on and off states of the cues, unless I had separate On/Off buttons, as there’s only one feedback for each button.
Can you send me your modified config file?
Doh! I guess that would help!
Ah - it’s obvious when you see it!
So you need a different feedback entry for each state ie. Red for the ON state Black for OFF.
I think there needs to be a little more in the way of explanation on how this is used/interpreted by the user.
So next to the ON Check box - maybe just write something along the lines of:
“This Feedback State will be shown when the status selected here is true.”
With regards to SOF mode on the desk - there must be an undocumented command to get this to happen, because when you use the Yamaha StageMix iPad app, and you have selected in the options “Desk follows StageMix” - the desk does exactly that, it follows whatever you do on the app - SOF mode included.
And (as far as I’m aware) the app simply uses the SCP commands over TCPIP.
If I get a chance next time I’m in front of a desk (which could be a while under the current circumstances #covid-19), I’ll setup WireShark and see if I can see what’s being sent to the desk when I go into SOF mode on the app.
Yamaha uses MIDI over TCP/IP for stage mix and the CL editor. (actually ALL Yamaha digital desk’s editors use MIDI, but some are over USB instead of TCP).
I’ve worked with it extensively, probably more than anyone other than Yamaha. Have a look at YammieQ, which uses those commands.
I’m planning on implementing that system in a new module for the StreamDeck, once I finish with the SCP system. TBH, SCP is pretty weak. Very limited functionality and lots of missing documentation. All the SCP commands that are supported by the CL/QL are listed in the “CL5 SCP Parameters-1.txt” file that you can peruse on GitHub. The TF ones as well. https://github.com/MeestorX/companion-module-yamaha-scp
I had thought that feedback was supposed to be dumb and needed a on and off feedback definition. Looks like I was wrong, as you probably know, it’s supposed to default to it’s normal state when the feedback is false. So, after a day’s work of figuring out how to make that happen by default, I’ve got it going now. At least I hope so. Needs testing.
I’ll update 1.2.1 with this new functionality. Should make feedback easier.